tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7141615629701321642.post5031003170972121452..comments2024-01-07T08:41:13.864-05:00Comments on C A I T I - O N L I N E: Ignatieff’s Liberals only believe in transparency when it suits them. Ditto the NDPBrent Fullardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08515599756822506137noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7141615629701321642.post-13134342217688207962009-12-16T17:36:03.586-05:002009-12-16T17:36:03.586-05:00As I said this in an earlier post. When Bush was d...As I said this in an earlier post. When Bush was discussing the war on Terrorism he said, "If you’re not with us, you’re against us". The Liberals are against us. How else can you explain it? Oh don't forget the DIPPERS.Bruce Bensonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7141615629701321642.post-41257947955446692302009-12-16T15:47:50.387-05:002009-12-16T15:47:50.387-05:00Anonymous:
Your feeble attempts to get us to not ...Anonymous:<br /><br />Your feeble attempts to get us to not continously pursue the income trust issue until justice is served, and only to do so as you deem appropriate, (which would probably mean never) reminds me so much of Dan Miles, who was incessantly of the same discouraging words as you, and was always lamenting "when will they go away"?<br /><br />Dan Miles was Flaherty's communications director at the time that his boss gave the shaft yo people who invested based on Harper's "solemn" promise (subsequently a solemn lie).<br /><br />You wouldn't happen to be Dan Miles would you, intent on stifling our advocacy on behalf of the truth would you?<br /><br />No? In that case then you might be interested in this:<br /><br />On Oct. 31, 2006, Flaherty made a very important policy announcement. He announced a plan to tax the distributions of income trusts. It was a sharp reversal of previous government policy, would impact the retirement plans of thousands of Canadians and broke a promise made by the Conservatives in the 2006 election campaign. At the same time, Flaherty announced various tax measures to ease the burden on seniors who would be adversely affected by the trust decision.<br /><br />So what would be the lead in the news that day? Income trusts, of course! But take a look at the press release issued by Miles when Flaherty made his announcement. You won't find a mention of income trusts in his lead. Instead, the headline reads "Canada's New Government Announces Tax Fairness Plan."<br /><br />This is a classic example of political spinning. The income trust decision was controversial; it was strongly opposed by many in the investment community and by Canadian seniors. But who could object to a "tax fairness plan"? Miles's job was to try to divert attention away from the more objectionable part of the announcement and get people to focus their attention on the good news. Of course in this case, it didn't work. But you can't blame a guy for trying! <br /><br /><br />Are you sure you aren't Dan Miles?Filliblusterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06563618107971013947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7141615629701321642.post-27952507022627284942009-12-16T15:37:18.745-05:002009-12-16T15:37:18.745-05:00Bring it up periodically?
More nonsense advice fr...Bring it up periodically?<br /><br />More nonsense advice from Anonymous.<br /><br />I am Anonymous. I am weak, useless and will preach to anyone. PukeFilliblusterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06563618107971013947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7141615629701321642.post-61075251550781127232009-12-16T14:59:27.321-05:002009-12-16T14:59:27.321-05:00Oh, yes the Brent - I am tough, angry and don'...Oh, yes the Brent - I am tough, angry and don't listen to anyone. Yawn <br /><br /><br />When people rant and rave 24/7 no one listens after a while. Bring it up periodically might to you more good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7141615629701321642.post-48827121823997782302009-12-16T14:38:28.708-05:002009-12-16T14:38:28.708-05:00Brent:
Like anonymous said, you really need to st...Brent:<br /><br />Like anonymous said, you really need to stop harping om matters that, as you rightly point out are "cornerstones of a democracy", as you might actually succeed in making Canada a better place for all, not just for some.<br /><br />On second thought, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK! Anonymous be damned.<br /><br />DougAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7141615629701321642.post-44123909173305560532009-12-16T14:33:16.805-05:002009-12-16T14:33:16.805-05:00Here are some Profound Statements fitting to ALL p...Here are some Profound Statements fitting to ALL political parties:<br /><br />1. In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm and three or more is a congress.<br />-- John Adams<br /><br />2. If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.<br />-- Mark Twain<br /><br />3. Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But then I repeat myself.<br />-- Mark Twain<br /><br />4. I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle .<br />-- Winston Churchill<br /><br />5. A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.<br />-- George Bernard Shaw<br /><br />6. A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money.<br />-- G. Gordon Liddy<br /><br />7. Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.<br />-- James Bovard, Civil Libertarian (1994)<br /><br />8. Foreign aid might be defined as a transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries.<br />-- Douglas Casey, Classmate of Bill Clinton at Georgetown University<br /><br />9. Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.<br />-- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Li bert ar ian<br /><br />10. Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.<br />-- Frederic Bastiat, French Economist (1801-1850)<br /><br />11. Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.<br />-- Ronald Reagan (1986)<br /><br />12. I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts.<br />-- Will Rogers<br /><br />13. If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free!<br />-- P.J. O'Rourke<br /><br />14. In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money as possible from one party of the citizens to give to the other.<br />-- Voltaire (1764)<br /><br />15. Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you!<br />-- Pericles (430 B.C.)<br /><br />16. No man's life, libert y, or property is safe while the legislature is in session.<br /><br /><br /><br />-- Mark Twain (1866)<br /><br />17. Talk is cheap...except when Congress does it.<br />-- Anonymous<br /><br />18. The government is like a baby's alimentary canal, with a happy appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.<br />-- Ronald Reagan<br /><br />19. The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery.<br />-- Winston Churchill<br /><br />20. The only difference between a tax man and a taxidermist is that the taxidermist leaves the skin.<br />-- Mark Twain<br /><br />21. The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.<br />-- Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903)<br /><br />22. There is no distinctly native American criminal class...save Congress.<br />-- Mark Twain<br /><br />23. What this country needs are more unemployed politician s.<br />-- Edward Langley, Artist (1928-1995)<br /><br />24. A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.<br />-- Thomas JeffersonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7141615629701321642.post-10354986354358696302009-12-16T14:05:22.565-05:002009-12-16T14:05:22.565-05:00Anonymous said...
My goodness, are you still on th...Anonymous said...<br />My goodness, are you still on the income trust thing. Old news. Nobody cares ... well at least not enough for any of the parties to care.<br /><br />That is one hell of a sad comment & it burns me off to no end.<br /><br />This is the freaking problem with this whole issue as these guys were allowed to get away with it because no one cared.<br /><br />When we stop caring because it is not "sexy" enough , or "it is just those rich old guys" , or it`s ok because "it is not us" , then we have a real problem.<br /><br />The gov`t is elected by us & we pay their way -- that should be enough on it`s own to expect clarity & full accountability.<br /><br />In the case of income trusts a specific promise , not to be confused with a mere suggestion , a promise was made to not tax these entities ---this resulted in regular folks going out & buying , some of us a few weeks before the trust disaster.<br /><br />We lost huge , not only in cash savings , but in our respect for politicians.<br /><br />In my case , I had been a Con supporter for my whole life & I believed these guys.<br /><br />Naive you say , probably , but when our future PM makes a very specific promise & makes it over & over again across the length of the country , I feel I have a right to feel certain that what he says will be the truth.<br /><br />So damn right I care--so should every Canadian out there when blacked-out pages become the norm.<br /><br />We are losing our democracy right before our very eyes & that is a crying shame.<br /><br />Still Pissed-off in Rodney & not afraid to say it.<br /><br />Dr Mike PopovichDr Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16915911929286615081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7141615629701321642.post-91511972697185202132009-12-16T13:27:01.935-05:002009-12-16T13:27:01.935-05:00Anonymous writes:
"Once in a while something...Anonymous writes:<br /><br />"Once in a while something must be right about this world.<br />...sigh.<br />It's Christmas, stop being so absolutely grumpy 24/7."<br /><br />Christmas? Best of the season to you as well<br /><br />http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/Shows/The_Rick_Mercer_Report/ID=1348216052Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7141615629701321642.post-16056621482171429232009-12-16T13:20:02.410-05:002009-12-16T13:20:02.410-05:00My goodness, are you still on the income trust thi...My goodness, are you still on the income trust thing. Old news. Nobody cares ... well at least not enough for any of the parties to care.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7141615629701321642.post-76635952705479089682009-12-16T12:49:03.110-05:002009-12-16T12:49:03.110-05:00Anonymous said...
" Interesting, every da...Anonymous said...<br /><br /> " Interesting, every day - every single day you rant and attack and and everyone is wrong but you. Once in a while something must be right about this world."<br /><br />I have never heard anything so lame and idiotic as that. Let's see. Nothing improves so you advocate "Don't worry, be happy".<br /><br />The advice of s true sycophant. No chance of a better New Year with a rollover and defeatist philosophy like that. Are you sure you don't work for the PMO....or maybe the Globe and Malice?<br /><br />PS: I never take advice from "Anonymous" people, especially absurd advice like yours, but I suppose you do?<br /><br />Brent FullardFilliblusterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06563618107971013947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7141615629701321642.post-84607304050130697472009-12-16T12:35:02.430-05:002009-12-16T12:35:02.430-05:00Will E.
So do I, which is why I speak up against ...Will E.<br /><br />So do I, which is why I speak up against it!<br /><br />BrentFilliblusterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06563618107971013947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7141615629701321642.post-55107160715370959402009-12-16T12:34:36.521-05:002009-12-16T12:34:36.521-05:00Brent when you say "So why do the Liberals un...Brent when you say "So why do the Liberals under Michael Ignatieff only care about transparency when it suits their purposes, as we are witnessing in the events of the last two weeks? This makes them virtually no different that the Harper Conservatives." <br /><br />As a Liberal, I take offense to that!<br /><br /> Will E.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7141615629701321642.post-59884284410524349392009-12-16T12:29:10.803-05:002009-12-16T12:29:10.803-05:00Interesting, every day - every single day you rant...Interesting, every day - every single day you rant and attack and and everyone is wrong but you.<br /><br />Once in a while something must be right about this world.<br /><br />...sigh.<br /><br />It's Christmas, stop being so absolutely grumpy 24/7.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7141615629701321642.post-62284114285876752762009-12-16T12:16:22.198-05:002009-12-16T12:16:22.198-05:00Polyian:
"You would think with issues like ...Polyian: <br /><br />"You would think with issues like the deficit, IT's, war crimes, HST, bribery etc. etc. that Harper could be taken down fairly easily yet the Libs are acting like a bunch of newbies and just don't understand the issues."<br /><br />You are right on.<br />It's now evident that the Iggy Lib's are more inept than the party in power.<br />No one seems to care other than the 100 or so posters and readers here out of 30 million or so....one day they will wake up to find they no longer live in a democracy,a first world country....<br /><br />Cheers cocopahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7141615629701321642.post-23690845063530584252009-12-16T12:15:26.106-05:002009-12-16T12:15:26.106-05:00"You would think with issues like the deficit..."You would think with issues like the deficit, IT's, war crimes, HST, bribery etc. etc. that Harper could be taken down fairly easily yet the Libs are acting like a bunch of newbies and just don't understand the issues."<br /> <br />John McCallum MUST understand what income trists were doing for retirees and small investors.<br />Remember that this now low profile politician was V/P with Royal Bank.<br />So, he understands and he is not ready to side with us, ordinary Canadians.<br />The Bay Street boys club is too importants for him as he also knows that WE we pressuring his friends, the fat cats, for transparancy and for a better share of CASH-FLOWS.<br />Income trusts were good for us, not for the crooks in charge asking for too large pays, bonuses and options.<br />Big Corporations don't like it when small investors ask for clarity, transparancy and income.<br /> <br />Income trusts had to die and it was the message sent by Power Corporation, Manulife, Encana and Morgan, Bell Canada and I presume many other fat cats members of the old boys' club.<br />We didn't have a chance and I don't believe that McCallum misses the knowledge to understand what is happening.<br />If he is such a dummy, easy for him to understand that now we lose income trusts to foreighners, private equities and pension funds.<br /> <br />Sudenly, Canada is a real loser.<br /> <br />McCallum is now a very small politician and he does not care for a second about us, retirees and small investors.<br /><br />JMLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7141615629701321642.post-41242909738850054232009-12-16T12:14:12.696-05:002009-12-16T12:14:12.696-05:00When I was writing letters back in 2006 I got simi...When I was writing letters back in 2006 I got similar responses from NDP MP's saying it was too late as many people had already lost their money and sold their trusts. I wrote back that their excuse to do nothing was akin to turning the rescue ships back from the Titanic because some passengers had already drowned...seems there is no will to save trusts anywhere but on this forum...it's pretty sad.<br />But as you point out, the bigger issue is the loss of Canadian companies and tax revenue because of a lie that should be exposed...<br />You would think with issues like the deficit, IT's, war crimes, HST, bribery etc. etc. that Harper could be taken down fairly easily yet the Libs are acting like a bunch of newbies and just don't understand the issues.<br /><br />PolyianAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com