......like quotes wrongly attributed to Stephen Harper....and the constant lies advanced by the Globe and Mail that income trusts cause tax leakage. There ought to be a law....truth in journalism is a myth. The Globe was quick to retract the misquote of Stephen Harper but has yet to set the record straight on Stephen Harper's lie about tax leakage.
‘They dish it but they can’t take it,’ Ignatieff says after Liberals pull Harper quote
BILL CURRY AND JANE TABER
DETTAH, NWT, AND OTTAWA—
Monday, April 18, 2011 12:46PM EDT
The Liberals are escalating their attack on Stephen Harper over the future of health care, portraying complaints from the Conservative war room as a sign of nervousness.
Liberals say they will post an online poll Monday asking Canadians which new Harper quote on health care they should use to replace one that was inaccurate.
“I think they’re nervous. They are under attack for the first time on a fundamental question,” Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff said Monday in French. “Do you trust Mr. Harper on health care, yes or no? And I think the answer is no.”
The flurry of activity began in the morning with phone calls from the Conservatives informing reporters travelling with the Liberal Leader that a recent attack ad on health attributes a quote to Mr. Harper that was in fact written by David Somerville, president of the National Citizens Coalition – an organization that Mr. Harper once led.
Mr. Ignatieff responded by saying the source of the quote was The Globe and Mail and Maclean’s. The Globe then published a correction Monday related to an Aug. 25, 2010 column that misattributed the quote.
Liberals note the ad has been running for several days without comment from the Conservatives. While all three national parties are promising to continue spending 6 per cent more each year on health transfers to the provinces, Mr. Ignatieff argues the Conservative numbers “don’t ad up” because Mr. Harper has made expensive long term promises related to fighter jets, income splitting, prisons and corporate tax cuts.
The Conservatives counter that they are focused on the economy and a strong economy is the best way to ensure Ottawa has the money to spend on health care. The NDP, for its part, says neither the Conservatives, nor the Liberals can be trusted on the issue.
Mr. Ignatieff noted that the Conservatives have been taking his quotes out of context in ad campaigns for years.
“I’ve had five years of malicious, selective misquotation of my work. But that is no excuse. If there is misquotation in any campaign, then that’s unacceptable. The fact that they did it to me doesn’t make it acceptable,” he said, in relation to the Conservative objections regarding the quote. “I don’t want us to go down this road. They went down that road and I don’t want to go down there with them.”
Yet after saying that, he went on to say the gloves are off at this point in the campaign.
“It’s getting tight. The heat’s on. They dish it out but they can’t take it,” he said. “We’re saying: ‘Gloves off. Let’s have a real serious debate on this issue.’ It’s a fundamental issue. This is about values.”
The Liberals will not be taking the ad off the air, as the Tories demanded.
“We're going to replace the quote with one of the many other comments Stephen Harper has made attacking public health care in Canada – and we've got plenty to choose from,” Ignatieff spokeswoman Leslie Church told The Globe Monday.
“The question for Mr Harper now is whether he stands by the view that the CHA should be ‘replaced’ or ‘overhauled?’”
Ms. Church added that the new ad will be on television by Tuesday.
The original quote – “It’s past time the feds scrapped the Canada Health Act” – was used by the Liberals in their attack ad, and attributed to Mr. Harper.
The TV spot had been running for six days before the Tories found the misquote. Then they seized upon it, accusing the Liberals of fabricating the line and calling on them to pull the ad.
“There is no excuse – not even the desperation of a flailing campaign – that justifies the Ignatieff decision to take someone else's words and pass them off as Mr. Harper's,” Conservative campaign manager Jenni Byrne said in a statement issued to the press. “Mr. Ignatieff must pull the false ad immediately. His campaign should apologize, not to us, but to Canadians, for trying to mislead them.”
But the Liberals fired back with a series of quotations from Mr. Harper and what they are calling “his controversial views on the Canada Health Act.”
“In 1997, when Harper was vice-president of the National Citizens' Coalition, a group obsessed with privatizing health care, he said: “Well I think it would be a good idea. … Moving toward alternatives, including those provided by the private sector, is a natural development of our health care system.’”
There are other quotes from Mr. Harper, including just last week when he said during the English-language leaders debate: “Governments across this country have experimented with alternative service delivery. … We’re not going to wave the finger at provinces because they experiment with different delivery.”
The ad has caused much consternation in the Tory camp. Even before the Tories started pointing fingers Monday, Conservative campaign manager Jenni Byrne sent a memo to her troops, suggesting that the Liberal attack ad was a sign of desperation.
That was repeated again Monday in the statement sent to reporters. “In a clear sign of desperation, the Ignatieff Liberals are running a TV commercial based on a fabricated quotation,” the Tories charged.
But the Liberals fired back with a series of quotations from Mr. Harper and what they are calling “his controversial views on the Canada Health Act.”
They noted that he was quoted in The Globe and Mail (in August, 2010) and in the Calgary Herald (in May, 2005) saying “it’s past time the feds scrapped the Canada Health Act.”
“In 1997, when Harper was vice-president of the National Citizens' Coalition, a group obsessed with privatizing health care, he said: “Well I think it would be a good idea. … Moving toward alternatives, including those provided by the private sector, is a natural development of our health care system.’ In another interview that year, Harper said, ‘It's past time the feds scrapped the Canada Health Act,’ according to the Calgary Herald article.”
There are other quotes from Mr. Harper, including just last week when he said during the English-language leaders debate: “Governments across this country have experimented with alternative service delivery. … We’re not going to wave the finger at provinces because they experiment with different delivery.”
But the Tories are unfazed. “Ignatieff knows that the words belong to David Somerville, not Stephen Harper, because in past the Liberals have correctly attributed the quotation to Somerville (Liberal Party of Canada, “Stephen Harper and the National Citizens' Coalition” (2004), page 5, footnote 20),” the Conservative news release said.
In response to the Tory accusation, an Ignatieff spokeswoman said: “This ad exposes one thing: you can’t trust Stephen Harper on health care. The Conservatives may not like Canadians having this debate about the future of health, but they have a right to know where Stephen Harper stands and how he explains his controversial views on the Canada Health Act.”
The Liberals also note the ad has been up since last Tuesday, and curious why the Tories are only raising the issue now.
Monday, April 18, 2011
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They say that it's not the initial screw-up that does you in, it's how you respond to the screw-up.
Here the Liberals should pull or fix the ad. As it stands now, it's more of an indictment of the Liberals than it is of the Conservatives.
The Libs should post Harper`s 2005-2006 promise not to tax income trusts.
I heard him say it over & over & over .....
Dr Mike Popovich
The Liberals and the Conservatives on not taxing income trusts:
Pot meet kettle.
Anon,
Good FinMin Goodale was thinking of a 5% tax on trusts, and Flaherty hammered trusts with a 31.5% tax.
I no longer have a Pot to piss in. May I use yours?
Liberals in BC = HST
Liberals in ON = HST
Jean Chretien, "I'll scrap the tax" = GST
Dalton McGuinty, "I won't raise your taxes" = health care premium
The Liberals never saw a tax they didn't hike. Anybody that believes them on tax matters deserves to be broke.
HST in BC: Stephen Harper
HST in Ontario: Stephen Harper
31.5% tax on income trusts: Harper
Thanks for making my point. They're all the same. I'm no Tory fan boy, but the Liberals are no more trustworthy than the Conservatives. Once Gwyn Morgan, and Dominic D'Alessandro, et al, influenced a Liberal Finance Minister, the income trust sector would still have been destroyed.
That doesn't make Harper & Flaherty's lies and bs right that's just the way it is. Don't get your hopes up that the Liberals will do anything different, they never saw a tax they didn't like and that includes the GST and the HST. All of our politicans lied, are still lying and failed income trust investors!
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