Thursday, February 28, 2008

Whose version of events would you believe? The dead man or the politically dead man walking?

I vote for the latter:

Scratchy tape begins with Harper request: 'This is not for publication'
Thu, 2008-02-28 21:15.
By: Alexander Panetta, THE CANADIAN PRESS

OTTAWA - The voice on the scratchy tape is unmistakably Stephen Harper's.

It was as unmistakable as his concern that the tape's contents might one day be made public. Harper interrupted a local reporter in 2005 when asked about allegations his party had offered financial enticements to a dying MP to win his support on a critical vote.

"This is not for publication?" Harper asked Tom Zytaruk.

He was told that the interview was intended as fodder for a biography of Chuck Cadman, the late MP from Surrey, B.C.

But the ensuing two minutes, 21 seconds of audio raise questions about apparent discrepancies between what the prime minister said Thursday and what Harper himself said on the tinny tape more than two years ago.

The prime minister said Thursday he looked into claims Cadman was offered financial considerations and determined they were untrue.

The tape suggests Harper was not only aware of a financial offer to Cadman, but that he gave it the go-ahead, while urging party emissaries not to "press" Cadman too hard.

Harper's conversation with B.C. journalist Tom Zytaruk took place outside the Cadman residence just after Harper paid a courtesy visit to the former MP's widow shortly after his death.

"The offer to Chuck was that it was only to replace financial considerations he might lose due to an election," Harper says.

And Harper says of the people who made the offer: "They were legitimately representing the party."

Here's how Harper summarizes his instructions to those party operatives: "I said, 'Don't press (Cadman), I mean, you have this theory that it's, you know, financial insecurity, and you know, just, you know, if that's what you're saying make that case,'but I said, 'Don't press it."'

The Liberals have already sent a letter to the RCMP asking for an investigation into whether the entire incident could violate the bribery provisions in Section 119 of the Criminal Code. The Mounties said Thursday they're examining the request.

Harper is clear on the tape that he never expected the overtures to succeed. Cadman did in fact vote to rescue the Martin government.

"I don't know the details. I can tell you that I had told the individuals, I mean, they wanted to do it. But I told them they were wasting their time. I said Chuck had made up his mind."


Transcript of author's tape of Harper sheds light on Cadman case

OTTAWA - Transcript of a portion of author Tom Zytaruk's tape of a 2005 interview with Stephen Harper, then leader of the Opposition, for his biography of the late Chuck Cadman:

Zytaruk: "I mean, there was an insurance policy for a million dollars. Do you know anything about that?"

Harper: "I don't know the details. I know that there were discussions, uh, this is not for publication?"

Zytaruk: "This (inaudible) for the book. Not for the newspaper. This is for the book."

Harper: "Um, I don't know the details. I can tell you that I had told the individuals, I mean, they wanted to do it. But I told them they were wasting their time. I said Chuck had made up his mind, he was going to vote with the Liberals and I knew why and I respected the decision. But they were just, they were convinced there was, there were financial issues. There may or may not have been, but I said that's not, you know, I mean, I, that's not going to change."

Zytaruk: "You said (inaudible) beforehand and stuff? It wasn't even a party guy, or maybe some friends, if it was people actually in the party?"

Harper: "No, no, they were legitimately representing the party. I said don't press him. I mean, you have this theory that it's, you know, financial insecurity and, you know, just, you know, if that's what you're saying, make that case but don't press it. I don't think, my view was, my view had been for two or three weeks preceding it, was that Chuck was not going to force an election. I just, we had all kinds of our guys were calling him, and trying to persuade him, I mean, but I just had concluded that's where he stood and respected that."

Zytaruk: "Thank you for that. And when (inaudible)."

Harper: "But the, uh, the offer to Chuck was that it was only to replace financial considerations he might lose due to an election."

Zytaruk: "Oh, OK."

Harper: "OK? That's my understanding of what they were talking about."

Zytaruk: "But, the thing is, though, you made it clear you weren't big on the idea in the first place?"

Harper: "Well, I just thought Chuck had made up his mind, in my own view ..."

Zytaruk: "Oh, okay. So, it's not like, he's like, (inaudible)."

Harper: "I talked to Chuck myself. I talked to (inaudible). You know, I talked to him, oh, two or three weeks before that, and then several weeks before that. I mean, you know, I kind of had a sense of where he was going."

Zytaruk: "Well, thank you very much."


Robert Gibbs said...

Harper and his CON minions are as guilty “as the day is long.”

I know it.
Garth Turner knows it.
Liberals know it.
Other thinking, logical & sound-minded people know it.

Only CON cronies will deny, deny, deny it.
Mulroney taught them that tactic.

Robert Gibbs said...

Coming to a theatre near you:

Deceivin’ Stephen & Lyin’ Brian: Partners In Crime

Including an all-star cast of every CON crook-player since 1984.

Anonymous said...

How many times are things like this going to be ignored by the people in Ottawa and the ROC.

These people have got to be the crookedest bunch we have ever had in Ottawa.

Rick Drysdale

Once an old tory always a fool said...

The crookedest bunch? Not.

The crookedest bunch won two majorities, served (themselves) for nine years, and nearly everyone of the bunch got away.

The crookedest bunch don't get caught.

Dr. Peterson said...

Smearing a dead man out of political desperation.

I'm a centrist (actually voted for Martin the last go around), and trust me, this looks very, very bad on the Liberals.

Take a look at the comments at the Globe and Mail article, and they're in general agreement with me.

Desperate parties do desperate things, but this is just rediculous.

At least Harper getting a majority won't be in question any more.

Dr Mike said...

Dr peterson,

"The best defense is a good offense"--I can see what you are trying to do.

This is typical of this gov`t as the attack adds on Stephane Dion prove---be the biggest , meanest dog on the block--as long as you can intimidate , then your real reason for existence will never come into view.

Unfortunately , the lid has come off the jar & your boy Steve is about to be found out for the lying , conniving control freak that he is.

Using the Globe & Mail as your moral authority is like using a fox to justify why another fox ate all the chickens in the henhouse.

Good try Doc , but you do not have a moral leg to stand on.

Dr Mike Popovich--a former 36 year Conservative.

Anonymous said...

Dr. Peterson I presume:

Get your players' list straight. Its actually quite easy to remembers:

The CONs are the crooks.

The Liberals are the keystone cops.

I'll take incompetent over corrupt any day.

Which makes for a difficult choice, since the Stephen harper conservatives are both.....corrupt AND incompetent.

Anonymous said...

Cadscam trumps adscam. Harper is a loser and insurance company scam artist. Tax Fairness Plan anyone?

Brent Fullard

Dr Mike said...

It is quite handy to have companies such as Manulife & London life in your back pocket who are looking for a favor.

You just never know when you may need a good (unofficial) life insurance policy!!!!


Mary the golfer said...

I wish to thank Tom (Sticky fingers) Flanagan & Doug (don`t worry , I picked up the policy) Finley whose inept behaviour in the Chuck Cadman matter will just keep on giving.

Well done fellas!! With guys like you on the Harper team (there is an "I" in team) , we now realize how lucky we are to only be slightly inept.

Dr Peterson--shifting the blame will not help you this time.

You have opened the door to the barn & the first horse has already left the building & he ain`t a comin back.

Mary P

Anonymous said...

once in a while I go to duffy to see his absurd take on the story and last night he actually stated cadman was voting liberal becaUSE he did not want to lose his insurance policy low can he never fails to amaze me that a man who calls himself a journalist would stoop so low. If Chuck did tell him this in private...he should keep it to himself...what a terrible person this man is.

Anonymous said...

Feb. 29, 2008: Harper believes that Canadians can be deceived 99% of the time. "We will not tax income trusts" "Tax leakage" The only leakage is the lies they spew on a daily basis. Offering a million dollar bribe would be a major scandal in the U.S. and an inquiry would be started. Also, it appears we will now have our movies and TV shows monitored by the government. Think I should brush up on my Arabic....we have oil and we have a government telling us what can view.. Problem is that we have cold winters and Saudi Arabia is warm. They have a King and we have a despot